Two Librans

• 8. Spoilt Victorian Child

  This marks our first child-themed episode, and it runs the gauntlet from how to dress your child, horrible movies your children will demand to watch, mistakes your child can make when under the influence of Rock and Roll music, and of course, the song Spoilt Victorian Child.Truly one of The Fall’s great “bangers”, frontloading the already excellent This Nation’s Saving Grace. We have a nuanced conversation about the lyrics, which are relatively straightforward by Fall standards. Also, we miss some very obvious references. Have any guesses as to what “SVC” could stand for in this song? Tune in to hear us take an entire episode to figure it out!We also go back to school and cover Tom’s hit lists and Roman’s enormous genitals on the pages of Nikolai Gogol’s Dead Souls. Ah, youth..A DIP INTO THE COMMENTS CESSPOOLWe’ve danced around the petty, strange world of the comments accompanying the “annotations” on the Annotated Fall, but this week we do a deep dive into their chatter about “SVC”. We read aloud a very stupid, petty argument among grown men over the lyrics to the song, before someone posts the lyrics sheet as listed in the official single, almost as if it’s an irrelevant aside.ALSO COVEREDGaston Bachelard vs Fletcher HanksFantagraphics childwear(still for sale at the moment of writing)Fuck Al/Fuck AITom’s college classmatesThe revolution will begin with Limp BizkitRobert Christgau, “The Dean of American Rock Critics”Tom’s Hit ListThe only reason to visit Bethesda, MarylandPSAs always, don’t forget to follow our own substacks.Tom’s been writing weekly about “making art” in the screenprinting studio, and also documenting his terrific dietary habits.Roman recently posted some very dumb cartoons, and the very first one of these you can hear being riffed out in one of the upcoming episodes. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com

  --------  

  1:05:22
• 7. Tempo House

  In this Tempo House we discuss: a very long and weird song from possibly the Fall's best album, the proud-boys-to-proud-men pipeline, the story of our meeting, the art of editing, Snow White and her Dwarfs, Twilight soundtrack, and Tom's mom. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com

  --------  

  1:19:13
• 6. That Man

  …in which these men discuss crime (cyber, and regular), gloryholes, the manosphere, and The Fall, ft. Caitlin MoranWhy hello there, did you miss us? We're back from a short hiatus you may or may not have noticed. We have both been incredibly busy with outside projects (also Tom was very sick), and discovered that keeping a weekly schedule was slowly ruining us. So, if we miss a week, please go back and catch up on any episodes you may have missed. Do not listen to any other podcasts.This week we cover an obscure track that’s only appeared on bootlegged live performances or tacked on as a bonus track on reissues, “That Man.” It’s a somewhat obnoxious song that neither of us particularly like, and the mealy-mouthed explanation of why Tom chose it falls apart pretty quickly as the discussion progresses. Even the unlovable goofballs on the now defunct Annotated Fall disapprove. Nevertheless, because we are covering everything Mark E. Smith ever penned, we do a full lyrical analysis of this stupid song, and discover it’s rife with extremely-specific Manchester references and (according to the Annotated Fall) William Blake references? Sure, buddy.And this being Two Librans, our discourse flies off the handle. In addition to That Man, These Men discuss Chuck E. Cheese, South American retreats for adherents to the Manosphere, glory holes (quite a bit on this actually), and Cyber Punishment for Cyber Crimes. Also: Tom plays a kazoo.DO YOU LIKE SEXThis week’s interview is from some awful television show called Naked City, where host Caitlin Moran tries to drum up controversy with an extremely bemused and increasingly drunk Mark E. Smith.Perhaps the best part is when he’s asked who his favorite comedian is, and he answers Bernard Manning, an English comedian and nightclub owner whose sense of humor resembles your racist uncle telling jokes to try to impress uncles even more racist than him. He looks and sounds like an anthropomorphic jowl, so good luck trying to understand the clips they play of him blathering about immigrants or women or something.The whole interview has a strange, 90s Vaseline sheen, and is so oddly-produced that it’s pretty entertaining.ALSO COVEREDTranslated Russian dubs from the Soviet eraVERY heterosexual men's retreats, no vegans welcomePreventative measures for glory holes in SeattleNote: this is a photo Tom took in 2012 of the bathroom he discusses in Volunteer ParkBonus: Here’s a comic he scribbled out at a drink-and-draw night in 2016 that features it:Tom teaches Roman about Chuck-E-Cheese / Dave & BustersTom’s cousin’s MTV reality show about modelsPorn-’n-Chicken Night at the Old Pink in Buffalo (RIP)The difference between Love & LustRussian pirate labels listed on AllmusicRoman steals a question from Caitlin Moran in his comicPSAs always, don’t forget to follow our personal substacks! Roman recently wrote a manifesto no-one asked for: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com

  --------  

  1:27:37
• 5. Winter 2

  The second half of our discussion on Winter, sixty seconds of Mark E. Smith mumbling about drinking while “drowning in a sea of Boddingtons”, and over a hundred minutes of discussion on things that are decidedly not the Fall.SCENARIO: A Fall superfan discovers a brand new podcast about their favorite band. Better yet, there’s two whole episodes and over THREE HOURS of discussion on their favorite song, Winter from the 1981 masterpiece Hex Enduction Hour. They subscribe, pop open their podcatcher and are utterly baffled by sound collages, lengthy descriptions of a deranged Seinfeld episode that sound like a fever dream, and stories about blacking out from drinking in Buffalo in the mid 00’s. No, sir, this isn’t your grandmother’s Fall podcast (though I heard that’s pretty good, too), this is Two Librans; the intersection of comics, astrology, Patti Smith’s poetry and The Fall. Only listen to this once a day. Your brain might be destroyed!Our original plan for last week was to cover the entirety of the two-part song Winter, but like all good trains, it got derailed. Tom joked before that recording that we could discuss Winter 2 the following week, but that is exactly what happened. The boys wrap up the discussion with the help of some very lonely and bored men who loitered on the defunct Annotated Fall when it was still a going concern, and also talk about all sorts of other things. This one is a hoot, and we laughed at ourselves quite a bit while editing. Radical Self-Love, I think that’s what they call it.MARK E. SMITH LIKES A BEER AND IS NOT ASHAMEDThis week we’re treated to a damn-near incomprehensible monologue by our spiritual leader MES, where he proffers such invaluable truths as “You cannot be an alcoholic if you have your drink in the open”. Actually that’s about the only wisdom he provides, the rest is just typical kvetching about other bands and the media. And we wouldn’t have it any other way. 60 seconds of pure gold.ALSO COVEREDRoman’s one-night-long stoner phaseTom’s view at TCAF, 2017Patti Smith staying relevant with youth cultureEmmanuel Macron staying relevant with youth cultureRoman’s comic about painting with children which was enjoyed by the stingy scum of AntwerpBest museum for day drinking in ParisMeeting Public Figures on Facebook MarketplaceThe original crop from a couple years ago:There were so many that at a certain point Roman just started copy-pasting the text instead of screenshotting:Recent updates:David Hockney sliding into Roman’s dad’s DMs 👍Cow ToolsRoman’s first memoryDid Kramer impregnate a secondary character?Roman may’ve misremembered a few things, but other people of the internet are on the same page:Listeners, what do you think? Also, was William Blake a nudist?John “the Baptist” CaleAnd once again, Brain TicketMore Radical Self-LoveAs always, links to Tom and Romans’s personal Substacks. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com

  --------  

  1:49:39
• 4. Winter (Hostel-Maxi)

  A thorough discussion on a classic track(s) from Hex Enduction Hour, the most cantankerous and irresponsible interview to ever appear on Australian children’s television, and some Dangerous Truths from a Special Guest Host!We’re closing out 2024 with a BANG, covering an absolute classic: Winter (Hostel-Maxi) from 1981’s Hex Enduction Hour. We discuss why the song was split in two, dissect the (many) lyrics, and pull some demented theories from the bottomless depths of the world’s most useless, defunct website, The Annotated Fall, all with newfound swagger on the mic and crispy-clean audio quality. Around halfway through our discussion we encounter a shocking revelation, which will continue into Episode 5 next week!NEW YEAR NEW HOST2024 was the year our humble podcast splashed out of the womb, and as a thank you for sticking with us this far, we also had on our first Mystery Guest Host, who delivers some Dangerous Truths that might rip you out of your comfort zone and question the values you hold so dear. We also veer into legthy discussions of the The Fall’s responsibilty for the entirity of modern Icelandic music, problematic terms for German prog music, and the live-action Disney remakes of their classic animated films.MARK VS. MARCThis week’s interview is from the Australian program(me) “Sounds”, hosted by the genuinely charming Donnie Sutherland. His charm is countered by two men who had gotten into a literal fistfight the evening before; MES and Marc “Happy Fall Guitarist” Riley. Why they decided to have this duo on exclusively for the interview after Marc gave Mark a well-deserved, nasty shiner (poorly hidden by heavy makeup) is anyone’s guess, but Donnie powers through the interview like a true pro and wins them over by the end. It’s capped by him recommending Hex Enduction Hour to Australia’s youth, which is not only hilarious but socially irresponsible. ALSO COVEREDThe only way the French know how to pay tributeEducating ZoomersGod-teir song-ending fake-outs“The book was better!” and similar tropesPLUGS AND FALSE PROMISESRoman made some very generous promises about sweepstakes prizes this week, and to raise money he’s selling a beautiful new, branded ballcap on his award-winning Substack, DADA issues.And please smash a like, subscribe and a ding-ding-ding for Tom’s personal Substack, which he promises will be updated soon with “content”. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com

  --------  

  1:23:38

Mais podcasts de Música

Podcasts em tendência em Música

Sobre Two Librans