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S11-E4 - Dean Radin-Noetic Sciences
Welcome to Season 11, Episode 5 with us here at Thoth-Hermes Podcast. Today, Rudolf and Karin re-engage with friend Dean Radin. An electrical engineer holding a PhD in experimental psychology, Dean has been involved at the forefront of psychical research in the United States. Dean’s career has spanned Bell Labs, SRI International, and several major universities. He has served as Chief Scientist at the Institute for Noetic Sciences and authored several critically acclaimed titles on consciousness, Quantum, and… dare we name it… Magic. Dean dryly names that “all the really juicy stuff in science starts as the unobservable”, which is where the FUN of research resides: the rational understanding of the wonderous. Karin, Rudolf and Dean venture into questions of non-local consciousness, and the possibility of “the brain operating as a quantum object”. Do certain aspects of our perceptual ability distribute through space and time? After succinctly outlining Edgar Mitchell’s famed metaphysical rebirth, Dean broadens the possibility of the “Overview Effect”. He suggests that this is also found within personal anomalous experiences, psychedelic encounters, and other related transformative Wonder moments. Dean notes that questions of “consciousness” has saturated all major fields of human endeavor at this time, forming a “second” psychedelic and consciousness revolution. Mainline science’s reliance on the Reductive Materialism worldview is eclipsed by the new challenges of consciousness research. Throughout this conversation, Artificial Intelligence- pro or con, but present- is a repeated waypoint for reflection: can it demonstrate the Observer Effect? In what ways can our very human pioneers harness its capacities to bring us back to knowledge of our own extraordinary capacities? The flow of dialogue turns towards creativity as both necessity and antinomian, including in natural science. The authentic occult and paranormal are named as necessarily non-performative to conventional knowledge and endeavors: the deeper truths are far from social media and popular publishing. Dean suggests that the further knowledge of psychical processes develops, the more likely there may be a return to a true “occult” form of research and knowledge in response to its implications for upending current systems of large scale human control (government, religion, the marketplace). During the course of this conversation, Dean references the annual Linda G. O’Bryant noetic sciences research prize, and we are pleased to include that link: https://noetic.org/prize/ Dean’s first conversation on Thoth-Hermes occurred in the summer of 2020, Season 5 Episode 2, and is available here: https://thothermes.com/episodes/season-5-episode-2-science-meets-magic-dean-radin/
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Pansophers Episode 4 – Mark Stavish-Preserving Esoteric Tradition
Dear Listeners, welcome to Season 1 Episode 4 of Panosophers’ Podcast. May we express our gratitude for your ongoing support and attention to this venture. This week, we have the company of Mark Stavish. Mark is the founder and director of The Institute for Hermetic Studies (IHS). Mark holds degrees in Theology, Communications and Counseling. He is a prolific author of depth titles on Mystery subjects, centered on Western Kabbalistic knowledge. Mark is a longtime friend of our sibling podcast, Thoth-Hermes, and a trove of additional prior conversations may be found there. The overarching theme of the next two hours centers on: “what can you handle?” It is plainspoken and direct, while brotherly and benevolent. We encourage you to listen with ears open to hear. Mark and Rudolf dive in with the starting context for the IHS: 1990s, East-Coast America. A time of in-person groups, Gnosis Magazine, and the grit of self-publishing material perhaps too deep for the balance sheets of popular booksellers. Mark shares stark realities of rejection and adaptation for the sake of creating inheritance to future Seekers- rather than status or income streams. With his characteristic energy, Mark challenges listeners throughout the dialogue. He names the essential need for Initiates to handle stark reality, including worldviews not their own, beyond personal identity and ideology. In doing so, he identifies the need to produce a life-giving vision of the future, least populations be drawn into that which appears to be but is not. As Mark states, this has little to do with who one wants to see elected US President in “the next election”. It is this call to Depth that sees Mark and Rudolf explore essential questions: What is ‘tradition’ and why is it a responsibility? What is ‘initiation’ and the mindset of a true Initiate? How does ‘virtue’ relate to potency? Mark issues the Saturnian challenge to grow past “Tik-Tok clutter” and “podcasting, publishing, and product” marketplace of Occultism. He names the Aquarian postwar Esoteric awakening as a response to mass trauma, “most vibrant when truly counter-cultural” and small-group relational. Along the way, even the esoteric Christ is alluded to warmly. Turning to ethics around public divination of societal energies, Rudolf and Mark note the need for maturity in any Initiate claiming to do this. The qualifications include a true education in all of politics, history and economics- imbuing a nuance which returns to Tradition. May this bring a cornucopia of fruit for all of us. Music played in this episode Find out everything about our musical guest today, KARL YOUNG, and about the Shakuhachi, the Japanese bamboo flute, on his own website. Click here All tracks are from his CD "Lost in the Wood" 1) FOREST FLOWER (Track starts at 5:52) 2) YAMAGOE (Track starts at 53:34) 3) MURASAKI MURAIKI (Track starts at 1:39:12) Intro and Outro Musicespecially written and recorded for the Pansophers Podcast by Chris Roberts
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S11-E3 Remember the Future-Eric Wargo
You can also see this episode as a video on YouTube at https://youtu.be/BoFy2Q_o6GIWelcome to Season 11 Episode 4 of Thoth-Hermes Podcast…. Though with our guest in this dialogue, who can be quite sure of linear time? Rudolf and Karin are in conversation with author Dr. Eric Wargo. Academically an anthropologist, Eric has extended his spirit of scientific enquiry through Hermeticism, Alchemy, and into the contemporary “paranormal” discourse at large. Most specifically, he has taken on depth exploration of time: time loops, retrocausation, and precognition. This branch of study began for Eric in 2009, after having a UFO/UAP Experience. This anomalous experience created his initiation into the branch of modern scientists fully versed in scientific method yet fully aware of the mountain of Spooky anecdotal evidence of More. Law of Large Numbers? Yes, acknowledged: and gently set aside. Materialist explanation? A precise language with descriptive validity and profound explanatory limitations. Experience and initiation- their distinction, and coexistence- are honored throughout this conversation. Eric encountered break-out success with his 2018t book “Time Loops” (which Karin is on record as “passing out almost like Gospel” and scribe Emily keeps in her inner temple box of books). He has also written on Precognitive Dreaming (2021). In his current release, “From Nowhere”, he applies these insights to creativity. Eric notes the role of skilled stress states, flow states, altered states, and creative states in the enhanced experience of precognition. He also invites a cultural shift towards the upfront naming of retrocausation; moving past Cartesian duality; and transcending the labyrinth closures found with all of free will, predestination, and Many Worlds theory. In the expanse of unknown, this interview spans a variety of lenses on time and anomaly. We hear a definition of “retrocausation” that includes both the science of the subatomic level and the co-existing validity of intuitive experience. The occult Higher Self as perhaps the Long Self which Eric articulates in relation to precognitive dreaming. The notion of “flipping Freud” and symbolic precognitive insight as the method the Long Self can use to address our agency. The challenges of True Will, Free Will, and dynamic interaction with choice. Eric suggests that our “intentions” may frequently be misrecognized precognitions. If this sounds like one wild moebius strip of a conversation: it is! And highly enjoyable. After you listen, carry receptivity for unfolding Wonder in your life events.
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Pansophers Episode 3 – Travis Trinca-Stories of Initation
Greetings and welcome to Episode 3 of Panosopher’s Podcast. In this conversation, Rudolf meets with Australian Freemason Travis Trinca. This autumn, Travis released “The Temple and the Vault” (Lewis Masonic Publishing); a dedicated cross-tradition study of landscape and ritual in the search for Truth. Gentle yet candid, our author shares his personal initiatory journey- starting out in an a-religious family home, an extended journey with Rosicrucianism, and then entering into Freemasonry after the birth of his son. In non-Temple life, Travis holds an MBA and the accomplishments of adulthood. Within the Temple, he celebrates an ever-unfolding journey to spiritual maturity. Travis and Rudolf explore the landscape of mythic truth, Romanticism, and the interface of historic legend in our current time. They look at the implications of 20th Century “research” focused regard of historical figures, versus a past tolerance for thematic embellishment. Do mythic landscapes and ritual translate effectively over centuries? To what extent is it the responsibility of an Order to adapt and re-present the themes of the original analogies? To what extend is this the responsibility of the individual truth-seeking Initiate? What are our capacities? In their collective cornucopia of knowledge, Travis and Rudolf enthusiastically speak not only about Freemasonry, but also the Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis (AMORC); The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn; and the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia (SRIA). Unity is found in diversity, and the interface between text, tradition, and Truth-seeking. May this conversation prompt Meaning in all listeners.
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Pansophers Episode 2 – Christopher McIntosh-Germany, Russia and the others
For those devoted to the Rosicrucian tradition, Christopher McIntosh needs no introduction. In this conversation, Rudolf brings us closer to the man behind the foundational works that have shaped our understanding of Rosicrucianism. His books—The Rosicrucians, The Rose Cross and the Age of Reason, and his recent Rosicrucian Trilogy containing new translations of the original three Manifestos—stand as indispensable guides through the movement’s rich history and symbolic mysteries. McIntosh, a widely respected speaker on Rosicrucianism’s historical context, now opens a more personal window into the motivations and philosophies that drive his work, demonstrating how his passion for these mysteries can continue to inspire seekers today. In perfect timing with Pansopher’s recent relaunch, McIntosh unveils a deeply personal narrative that intertwines with the cultural and spiritual backdrop of Germany—expanding his focus to explore the often-overlooked roots of the German occult tradition. In his latest book, Occult Germany, he draws on three decades of personal experience living in Germany to reveal the subtle influences and hidden currents that have helped shaped modern occultism. In this conversation, McIntosh offers his perspective on how these forces have worked behind the scenes, nurturing the esoteric landscape in ways that are both illuminating and unexpected. Exploring Germany’s rich contributions to alchemy, theosophy, and Rosicrucianism, McIntosh brings us even deeper, turning to the often-overlooked realms of German folk and pagan traditions. This area, rarely discussed in esoteric circles—especially given the cultural aftermath of WWII—emerges here as a key influence on modern occultism. McIntosh unpacks the enduring legacy of German Romanticism, Wagner’s mythic visions, the Grail legends, and figures like Gustav Meyrink, all of whom contribute to the rich and largely untold story of Germany’s spiritual heritage.
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